Wednesday, February 25, 2009

[Organic_Gardening] Digest Number 2215

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Messages

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Tall tomato plants

Posted by: "Carol" cl_klavon@yahoo.com   cl_klavon

Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:57 pm (PST)


I recently read a post that discussed the proper care of tomato plants.
Starting a tomato plant in a pot is probably the best way, but for our
family, we often skipped certain steps just to get the ball rolling and
get things growing. My dad has a few wire cylindrical "cages"
approximately 7 feet tall. Our total space is approximately 10' X 25'.
My dad will plant them in the rows then put the cages over them.
Because we get incredible heat in the summer, these plants grow very
quickly in the sun, often surpassing the 7' mark. This method seems to
work best in areas where the summers are particularly hot, such as in
the San Joaquin Valley, Central California. Also, my father had
similar, smaller cages, for the bell and waxed peppers. Fortunately,
they can only grow so far - thank goodness. We have had many good
seasons of juicy red tomatoes.

One problem we have had with tomatoes are what are generally known as
tomato worms. They are green and red caterpillars that seem to have a
particular taste for tomatoes. They can wipe out a crop of tomatoes
easily if not held in check. As a child, I was given the task of
picking these nasty buggers off the plants, putting them in a bucket,
then throwing them away. I was thinking of using some type of grinder
to turn these pests into fertilizer, but what can I plant to help keep
the tomato worms away from our crop in the first place?

--Carol

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Mitleider Gardening question

Posted by: "Penny Swann" pennybugs@yahoo.com   pennybugs

Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:57 pm (PST)

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3a.

Re: Black Bugs Eating Strawberries, What Can I Do?

Posted by: "simmran1" simmran1@yahoo.com   simmran1

Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:57 pm (PST)

--- In Organic_Gardening@yahoogroups.com, "lilmissy0740"
<lilmissy0740@...> wrote:
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> I want to be ahead of the game this year. The previous years in my
> strawberry bed I would get those little black bugs eating my berries.
> What can I do to get rid of them?
> TIA
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I always go to biconet.com for any pest problem. Type in flea beetles.
Another good place is Plant Natural.com

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Re: Black Bugs Eating Strawberries, What Can I Do?

Posted by: "Ken" kenrogers@comcast.net   kenrogers911

Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:58 pm (PST)

Black bugs could be one of about 1000 different types and subtypes!! A
neem spray on all the plants and foliage can reduce and kill lots of
bugs, as well as spider mites. Make sure to spray under sides of
leaves. if these black bugs are very tiny, smaller than fruit flies,
it can be fungus gnats and they do damage to the roots once they lay
eggs and these hatch into tiny maggots. There, Bt soil drenches help
kill the maggot stages. Another option is yellow sticky traps that
will attract the flies and get stuck in the sticky stuff an die.

--- In Organic_Gardening@yahoogroups.com, "lilmissy0740"
<lilmissy0740@...> wrote:
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> I want to be ahead of the game this year. The previous years in my
> strawberry bed I would get those little black bugs eating my berries.
> What can I do to get rid of them?
> TIA
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4a.

new guy

Posted by: "ndt2tech" ndt2tech@yahoo.com   ndt2tech

Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:57 pm (PST)

Just wanted to say hey, my name is Eric,my friends call me ERK. I'm
some what new to gardening, well on my own anyway, I've help friends
and family over the years. I've finally got a job and a place that
well allow me to spend ampble time to garden.I plan to start small.
I'm currently living in central TN area(Tullahoma)and was wondering if
it's best to buy veggie seeds from this region or does it really
matter, cause I've been seeing alot of seeds from other region being
sold here. 2) does it matter where to I buy my seeds(lowes, dollar
stores, wal mart ect..) Thanks

4b.

new guy

Posted by: "ndt2tech" ndt2tech@yahoo.com   ndt2tech

Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:58 pm (PST)

Just wanted to say hey, my name is Eric,my friends call me ERK. I'm
some what new to gardening, well on my own anyway, I've help friends
and family over the years. I've finally got a job and a place that
well allow me to spend ampble time to garden.I plan to start small.
I'm currently living in central TN area(Tullahoma)and was wondering if
it's best to buy veggie seeds from this region or does it really
matter, cause I've been seeing alot of seeds from other region being
sold here. 2) does it matter where to I buy my seeds(lowes, dollar
stores, wal mart ect..) Thanks

5a.

Re: Vermicompost Invaders!

Posted by: "Ken" kenrogers@comcast.net   kenrogers911

Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:58 pm (PST)

White flies can be controlled with blue green color sticky traps.
these are positioned near the soil area. The flies are attracted to
the color and soon get stuck.

--- In Organic_Gardening@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Strong
<jeff_faithwalker@...> wrote:
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enough 1/2 inch Hardware cloth as it will take to cover the wheel
barrow. then sift out the worms and set them aside some place safe and
then spray the flies with some Pyrethium and then put it all into the
compost pile. Then create a new home for the wormies and don't do that
again!
> jeff
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> From: caycanna <cayseaanna@...>
> Subject: [Organic_Gardening] Vermicompost Invaders!
> To: Organic_Gardening@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 7:58 AM
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6a.

Re: Organic Seeds in Southeast Region

Posted by: "Silverwood Farm" silverwoodfarm@yahoo.com   silverwoodfarm

Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:58 pm (PST)

Thanks to all who have replied on here. I think I am going to order
from about four different companies and see who I have the best results
from. Then I will order all my seeds for my fall crop from that
company. (I needed approx. 5000 seeds) Again, thanks

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From: Jeff Strong <jeff_faithwalker@yahoo.com>
To: Organic_Gardening@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 10:30:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Organic_Gardening] Organic Seeds in Southeast Region

have you tried www.greenpeople. org

--- On Fri, 2/20/09, silverwoodfarm <silverwoodfarm@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: silverwoodfarm <silverwoodfarm@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [Organic_Gardening] Organic Seeds in Southeast Region
To: Organic_Gardening@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 11:09 AM

I have posted this on a couple other groups. Trying to get the widest

variety of choices and then go from there. We live in the southeast

section of Ga. and would like to know the best place around our area

to get organic seeds. I would rather buy seeds from this region of the

US for a variety of reasons. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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