Messages In This Digest (11 Messages)
- 1a.
- Re: Cold frame? From: winna222
- 2a.
- Re: New member intro - & my questions - apple trees From: winna222
- 3a.
- Re: New member intro - & my questions From: winna222
- 4a.
- Re: Introducing Myself... From: Ken
- 4b.
- Re: Introducing Myself... From: Pat
- 5.
- own work from home business From: m.vijay17
- 6a.
- Re: onions looking horrible From: Amy Shea
- 7.
- Hi! (Newbie) From: Angie
- 8a.
- Worm farm From: Laura Burkey
- 9.
- Just Joined... From: caycanna
- 10.
- Let me introduce myself From: alittlecurious999
Messages
- 1a.
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Re: Cold frame?
Posted by: "winna222" rlludwick@journey.com winna222
Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:27 am (PST)
Hey thanks Dave! Appreciate your idea about tucking the cold frame
in at night with a blankie or a comforter. That's a great idea - and
I never would have thought of it myself. Duh, on my part. Thanks!
Now you've gotten me thinking about how I could provide a biomass
warming thingy for this cold frame. I think that's what it's
called. Not really sure. I'm thinking that maybe gallon jugs or
something filled with water would warm in the sun and then release
their heat at night. You've really gotten me thinking about this
even more now. Cool! Er, uh, I mean "warm". lol
I think that I'm also gonna try planting some fancy leaf lettuces and
some radishes indoors, too. Really got the itch to plant veggies
once again, even tho' we've got plenty of winter left here yet.
Dave, you don't know me but I remember checking out your website
quite a while ago. I think that you are a soapmaker also (as I am).
Small world, eh?
Take care,
Linda Ludwick
"Dave Leland" <dleland@...> wrote:
>Sounds like a GREAT plan. See if you scare up an old bed comforter or
> several old blankets to cover the glass/coldframe at night. Keeps
the heat in. Then just take it off when the sun shines in. Also, see
if you can tip the coldframe towards the south-west. That will allow
for maximum exposure to 'ol Soul(sun).
> PS: I'm Z5 too, and also got the itch. :)
> Respectfully,
> Dave Leland
> DLELAND FARMS
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Re: New member intro - & my questions - apple trees
Posted by: "winna222" rlludwick@journey.com winna222
Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:28 am (PST)
Thanks for the welcome Vicki!
As soon as I joined this group I started sniffing around for info here
and I found your post about fruit trees, and some responses. I checked
some of the sites suggested and they were helpful to me. I already
know about those deer, and how much they love apples. There is an old
apple tree at the edge of a field, near the road, just across the road
from us. We've seen deer snacking on the apples there several times
and it IS entertaining to watch them. NOT quite so entertaining if
they're eating MY apples though, I guess.
I've seen some folks use aluminum pie pans as a deer-scaring
deterrent. They hang them on a string or rope "fence", I think. Or
maybe in the trees. ??? I wonder if they really work? I wonder if
placing a bar of some type of strong-smelling deodorant soap in or near
the fruit trees would help? My hubby suggested that we use one so-
called "tried and true" method that I'm not so sure about. He thinks
that we should place a radio in a barrel (or a 50 gallon drum) and play
polka music or some such thing 24/7 to keep the critters away.
Sometimes I worry about him. lol
Take care,
Linda Ludwick
"vlnewby" <vlnewby@...> wrote:
>Welcome to the fold, Linda!
> I will be following replies to your post because I plan to add fruit
> trees to my routine when we return to Zone 7 in a few months. Until
> then, I reside in Central New York where is grown a lot of apples and
where live a lot of deer. I have not personally sustained the damage to
plants that some have, but those deer will definitely eat all the
apples they can reach. I have seen them up on their hind legs going for
apples in the tree. That is a sight, let me tell you! I started to say
plant one for them and two for you, but they're likely to tell all
their friends and take all three.
> So anyway, yes, do your homework and hopefully the listmembers will
> have some advice and recommendations about fruit trees and deer
> repellent methods.
> Looking Forward,
> Vicki in Cooperstown
>
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Re: New member intro - & my questions
Posted by: "winna222" rlludwick@journey.com winna222
Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:29 am (PST)
Thanks for the excellent idea Jeff! Appreciate it a lot. Yes, here
in MI the extension is thru MSU - Michigan State University. That's
exactly what I want - several varieties of fruit with only one tree
to care for. The low cost also appeals to my frugal/Scottish
heritage. lol I'll start checking into it. Thanks again!
Linda Ludwick
Jeff Strong <jeff_faithwalker@...> wrote:
>Linda,
> The state extension service usually works with a particular
University in the state it is operating in. Each of these
Universities have Tester Trees which they graft various varieties.
Now here in Oregon we have the Oregon State University, and twice a
year, they put their Tester trees up for sale. So I would suggest
that you check and see if they do that in your neck of the woods as
well. Those trees are so pampered...........and you could get one
tree with 4 or 5 varieties on it. Most are True Dwarfs. I have and
apple tree that has Red Delicious, Granny Smiths, Golden Delicious, a
Rome Giant and a Fuji. And it only set me back $35 and they bare
fruit right away. Mine had a 3.25 caliper when I bought it 2 years
ago its a wee bit bigger now. But hey 5 fruit baring trees for 35
bucks and they all are in one location. That's what I call square
foot gardening!
> jeff
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Re: Introducing Myself...
Posted by: "Ken" kenrogers@comcast.net kenrogers911
Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:29 am (PST)
Iceberg was ment that there could be other toxins like PCBs and such.
If the land was ever used as a dumping site, or land fill, it can
contain all kinds of odd stuff. Locally here, WR Grace company
contaminated the drinking water in a nearby town. It harmed many
people, mostly kids and destroyed most of the towns water supply.
Grace was dumping all kinds of stuff including mercury and lead, to
name just two. The case went to federal court and there was a large
cash settlement extending for several years. In most cases, garden
plants don't pick up too much of any toxin, bit it depends on the PPM
of it and how well plants can tolerate things without becoming part of
the problem. Here, New England soil is supposed to be high in iron.
There is a national historical site nearby here called Saugus Iron
Works, where the first iron was mass produced back in the 1500-1600's.
We already know that deep wells around here will have high iron
levels. My garden however was nearly nil of iron when it came to
testing for it. I had to add it to my soil in the form of iron
sulfate. That was two years ago, and I expect its dropped down again,
so will be adding more. I don't do any ammendments until I get the
soil tested. I have to take about 6 samples from different areas of my
garden, and dig down a few inches to collect each below the sruface.
About a pound of soil is sent out and I get it done by Peaceful Valley
as most local places charge a bit more $ and do less tests.
--- In Organic_Gardening@yahoogroups. , "Dave Leland" <dleland@...com >
wrote:
>
> Ken,
>
> Good, that's the information I need. Let's see... any runoff from
septic,
> nearby roads, streams and rivers: nope, nope, nope and uh nope!
Great all I
> have to do now have the soil tested, right?
>
> In the 70% of the 'ice berg' that's below the water you wouldn't
happen to
> know where I should turn or are you just making conversation?
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Dave Leland
> DLELAND FARMS
>
> Visit our family Website at: http://www.dleland.com/
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Organic_Gardening@yahoogroups. com
> [mailto:Organic_Gardening@yahoogroups. ] On Behalf Of Kencom
> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 2:30 PM
> To: Organic_Gardening@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [Organic_Gardening] Re: Introducing Myself...
>
> 100% certified organic is very strict and must not have any chemcial
> fertilizers or other non organic items add for well over 20 years or
more.
> Every year, the soil must be thoroughly tested as well, not just for the
> necessary items, but also for any possible toxins or any runoff from
septic,
> nearby roads, streams and rivers. Thats just the tip of the iceburg!
>
> --- In Organic_Gardening@yahoogroups. , "Dave Leland" <dleland@>com
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello. I just joined your group seeking knowledge, information and
> > friendship. I am not new to gardening (40+ years), but this year I am
> > interested in getting my 1.5ish acre vegetable garden certified
> > organic. I have been using this garden since 1978 and other than the
> > occasional commercial fertilizer have abstained from using `nasty'
> > chemicals. Mostly cow & chicken manure, tree leaves, grass
clippings &
> > so forth. This year (for the first time) I am going to grow only
> > heirloom and/or open pollinated varieties.
> >
> > PS: I usually lurk in the shadows upon joining a new group for a
> > while, but am excited about your group.
>
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Re: Introducing Myself...
Posted by: "Pat" patar2002@yahoo.com patar2002
Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:29 am (PST)
Check with your State Dept of Agriculture. That is where I got my
application package and the name of a Certifying Agent. Good Luck!
Pat
Golden, CO
Zone 5
--- In Organic_Gardening@yahoogroups. , "Dave Leland" <dleland@...com >
wrote:
>
> Ooops, My Bad. :) I'm in SE Michigan (zone 5) just north of Ann
Arbor. I
> live on a little 6 acre chunk of heaven. If you have Google Earth
(or a GPS)
> enter these coordnates:
>
> 42°23'16.02"N 83°46'05.64"W
>
> This will put you in my front yard. The Google Earth picture is
about
> 3-years-old, but you can seen my raised beds and the garden(s).
>
> So, how does one get started getting certified organic? I've tried
to
> contact the "Southeast Chapter" of Organic Growers of Michigan
(OGM), but
> their site hasn't been updated in a while and nobody returns my
calls.
>
> BTW, I love mountains (none around here, just lakes and rivers).
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Dave Leland
> DLELAND FARMS
>
> Visit our family Website at: http://www.dleland.com/
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Organic_Gardening@yahoogroups. com
> [mailto:Organic_Gardening@yahoogroups. ] On Behalf Of Amy Sheacom
> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:41 PM
> To: Organic_Gardening@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [Organic_Gardening] Introducing Myself...
>
> Welcome, Dave -- where are you?
> Amy, mountains of SW VA
>
> .......... ............... ......
....
> ...............
>
> Those who dwell
> among the beauties & mysteries of the Earth
> are never alone or weary of life. (Rachel Carson)
>
> We ought to stay out of the nuclei. (Wes Jackson)
> http://ashea23.massagetherapy. com/
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave Leland
>
>
> Hello. I just joined your group seeking knowledge, information
and
> friendship. I am not new to gardening (40+ years), but this year
I am
> interested in getting my 1.5ish acre vegetable garden certified
> organic. I have been using this garden since 1978 and other than
the
> occasional commercial fertilizer have abstained from using
`nasty'
> chemicals. Mostly cow & chicken manure, tree leaves, grass
clippings &
> so forth. This year (for the first time) I am going to grow only
> heirloom and/or open pollinated varieties.
>
> PS: I usually lurk in the shadows upon joining a new group for a
while,
> but am excited about your group.
>
>
> _.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
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Re: onions looking horrible
Posted by: "Amy Shea" ashea23@comcast.net ashea23
Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:29 am (PST)
First of all, a note to all new people on the list -- please include your geographic location when asking for advice. The advice will often be different depending on where you're located.
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Hi, Quinton:
Don't let the naysayers get you down. Yes, onions can do very well from seed.
First of all, where are you? If you are getting close to a time when you have frost-free nights then all is well. You can start hardening off the onion starts by taking them out for a few hours per day until they are ready to be planted. When they hit the dirt they will most likely straighten up & be fine.
If it's still early days for planting outside, then you might try potting them up (putting in slightly larger containers with potting soil rather than seed-starting mix), or adding some potting soil to the tops of the containers they're in -- maybe they were planted a bit shallowly & just need a little extra support at the soil line. Or, they may have not had light/sun directly above them (they wouldn't have in my greenhouse LOL) & so may have gotten wobbly from changing their direction from hour to hour.
In my experience, onions from seed do tend to be a little wobbly in the greenhouse, but once in the garden they take off & do great. Here in zone 6b (or 6a depending on which map you view), I have not yet started anything in my greenhouse. My spring break from massage school is March 9 & that is probably when I'll start most everything. Just got my second & final seed order yesterday! Great excitement!!!
Best wishes,
Amy, mountains of SW VA
.......... ............... .......... ............ ...
Those who dwell
among the beauties & mysteries of the Earth
are never alone or weary of life. (Rachel Carson)
We ought to stay out of the nuclei. (Wes Jackson)
http://ashea23.massagetherapy. com/
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken
Onions should be planted outside. Topping over is sometimes normal if
they have minimal light. If they are under plant grow lights, about 18
hours per day is necessary. If the tops are yellowing, they may hve
too much water. A rot can also be the cause as they do have diseases
that will 'strangle' the leaves at the soil and they they die. Its
similar to damping off.
--- In Organic_Gardening@yahoogroups. , "quinton488"com
<quinton488@...> wrote:
>
> I have started my onions in modules and little pots indoors (thanks
for the suggestions) and
> they sprouted well but they now look all horrible and they're
toppling over each other. Is there
> any reason for this "falling down" and how can I cure it?
>
.
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Hi! (Newbie)
Posted by: "Angie" thelittons@worldnet.att.net witchyangel_7303
Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:30 am (PST)
Hello. My name is Angie. I live in southern Indiana. My family and I are
planning our very first garden this year, we're hoping to grow as much of
our food as possible eventually, but this year we're sticking mainly to corn
beans, squash and tomatoes. (May grow other stuff too, but these are our
main concerns.)
Our eventual plans are to live as "off the grid" as possible, but we're
starting small, and hope to work our way up as the years go by. We've been
living as simply as I can think possible in the modern world, but welcome
any tips or ideas.
As I said, this is our first garden, and I am notorious for not growing
plants well (read: I have a very BLACK thumb! lol), and am quite nervous,
really, about it all.
Thanks for letting me join in!
: )
Angie
     
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Worm farm
Posted by: "Laura Burkey" laburkey@skynethouston.com parellitrnr
Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:30 am (PST)
I started a worm farm back in November. I started seeds with the compost in
cardboard egg cartons and they all came up pretty well. My tomatoes haven't
gotten their secondary leaves on them yet, but are dying. Am I supposed to
mix the compost with regular soil? Am I killing them with too rich of a
diet?
Thanks,
Laura in Texas
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Just Joined...
Posted by: "caycanna" cayseaanna@yahoo.com caycanna
Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:30 am (PST)
Hello all - I just joined the group and am looking forward to learning
much! I grew up gardening with my parents for family food. I'm now on
my own and have a piece of land to start a garden on. I know I want to
be as "green" as possible and I'm looking for a little guidance and
local social get togethers. Is anyone else in SW PA?
Jessie
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Let me introduce myself
Posted by: "alittlecurious999" yeschaffer@yahoo.com alittlecurious999
Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:31 am (PST)
Hello,
My name is Yvonne. I live in northeast Ohio. I am an avid
gardener(indoor and outdoor) and look forward to hear about the
experiences of others.
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